

{"id":69175,"date":"2020-06-17T22:42:35","date_gmt":"2020-06-17T17:12:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/?p=69175"},"modified":"2020-06-18T12:44:32","modified_gmt":"2020-06-18T07:14:32","slug":"times-now-falls-for-fake-whatsapp-forward-listing-names-of-30-dead-chinese-soldiers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/times-now-falls-for-fake-whatsapp-forward-listing-names-of-30-dead-chinese-soldiers\/","title":{"rendered":"Times Now falls for fake WhatsApp forward listing names of 30 dead Chinese soldiers"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A military stand-off between Indian and Chinese troops along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) escalated on the night of June 15 leading to the death of at least 20 soldiers of the Indian army. While both sides have blamed the other for provocation, speculations on the number of Chinese casualties are on a rise. Journalists and media organisations had <a href=\"https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/indian-journalists-quote-chinese-casualties-based-on-unverified-source\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">first claimed<\/a> that five soldiers of the People&#8217;s Liberation Army (PLA) were killed and 11 were injured. The figure turned out to be unverified. It was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/india-china-dispute-43-chinese-soldiers-killed-media-outlets-and-journalists-mislead\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">subsequently claimed<\/a> that 43 Chinese troops lost their lives. This too was misleading information.<\/p>\n<p>Another figure was shared by Times Now as &#8216;breaking news&#8217; on June 17 \u2014 &#8220;China accepts 30 soldiers have been killed during the Ladakh standoff&#8221; \u2014\u00a0 citing China-based Global Times as the source. The <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/vibhasofficial\/status\/1273249833965334529\/photo\/1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">tweets<\/a> were later taken down.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-69210 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/Eat99bZU0AY5y3R-2-e1592413117532.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"622\" height=\"952\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/Eat99bZU0AY5y3R-2-e1592413117532.jpg 622w, https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/Eat99bZU0AY5y3R-2-e1592413117532-196x300.jpg 196w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 622px) 100vw, 622px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Times Now also aired a broadcast on the claim where anchors Rahul Shivshankar and Navika Kumar read out 30 names of Chinese soldiers who allegedly died. This can be watched from 4:30 minutes. However, in the end, Kumar said &#8220;Even this list put out by Global Times could be a fake forward.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Times Now falls for a fake WhatsApp Forward\" src=\"https:\/\/player.vimeo.com\/video\/430039545?dnt=1&amp;app_id=122963\" width=\"640\" height=\"352\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>The claim that 30 Chinese troops were killed was also <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ippatel\/status\/1273247640847695872\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">tweeted<\/a> by Prashant Patel Umrao who has <a href=\"https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/prashant-patel-umrao-fake-news-compilation\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">often been found promoting misinformation<\/a> on social media.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-69187 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/186c0355-6775-4a03-a27e-01dd9892e1d8.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"598\" height=\"406\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/186c0355-6775-4a03-a27e-01dd9892e1d8.png 598w, https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/186c0355-6775-4a03-a27e-01dd9892e1d8-300x204.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 598px) 100vw, 598px\" \/><\/p>\n<h4>Times Now lifts forwarded message<\/h4>\n<p>A widely circulating claim across Facebook and <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NinadVaidya80\/status\/1273260832932024321\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Twitter<\/a> suggested, &#8220;A spokesperson for the Western Theatre Command that oversees defences of #China&#8217;s border with India has released the names of 30 Chinese troops killed by Indian action.&#8221; These were the same names read out by Times Now anchors.<\/p>\n<div class=\"fb-post\" data-href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/ajay.setia.716\/posts\/255847192369694\" data-show-text=\"true\" data-width=\"\">\n<blockquote class=\"fb-xfbml-parse-ignore\" cite=\"https:\/\/developers.facebook.com\/ajay.setia.716\/posts\/255847192369694\"><p>The views of the other side.<\/p>\n<p>#China_seek_help_from_india_for_recovering_bodies_of_her_soldiers<\/p>\n<p>30 Brave Chinese&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Posted by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/ajay.setia.716\">Ajay Setia<\/a> on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/developers.facebook.com\/ajay.setia.716\/posts\/255847192369694\">Wednesday, 17 June 2020<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<p>Among those who <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/GeneralBakshi\/status\/1273293138891649025\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">tweeted the message<\/a> was retired major general GD Bakshi, a frequent panellist on Times Now.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-69240 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/b10ec42c-b307-439c-9672-7e319d44da00.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"592\" height=\"298\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/b10ec42c-b307-439c-9672-7e319d44da00.png 592w, https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/b10ec42c-b307-439c-9672-7e319d44da00-300x151.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 592px) 100vw, 592px\" \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"fb-post\" data-href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/ajay.setia.716\/posts\/255847192369694\" data-show-text=\"true\" data-width=\"\">\n<p>Below is the complete message <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/bestisrahul\/status\/1273288888396574726\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">shared by several on Twitter<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-69205 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/66b665cf-d8fb-42a7-bf6e-6a86f988043c.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"720\" height=\"866\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/66b665cf-d8fb-42a7-bf6e-6a86f988043c.jpg 720w, https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/66b665cf-d8fb-42a7-bf6e-6a86f988043c-249x300.jpg 249w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 720px) 100vw, 720px\" \/><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>The message, which also sites Global Times as the source, shares a link to the website chinanews.com. Times Now&#8217;s broadcast was aired at around 6:40 PM while the channel tweeted the claim at 6:49 PM. Alt News received a query for the message at 5:43 PM on WhatsApp.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-69195 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/Untitled-design-41.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1200\" height=\"628\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/Untitled-design-41.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/Untitled-design-41-300x157.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/Untitled-design-41-1024x536.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/Untitled-design-41-768x402.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/Untitled-design-41-990x518.jpg 990w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The message was circulating on Twitter as well <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/_The_Ronin\/status\/1273232641190395904\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">before Times Now&#8217;s tweet<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-69188 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/Untitled-design-40-e1592408518424.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1200\" height=\"564\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/Untitled-design-40-e1592408518424.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/Untitled-design-40-e1592408518424-300x141.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/Untitled-design-40-e1592408518424-1024x481.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/Untitled-design-40-e1592408518424-768x361.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/Untitled-design-40-e1592408518424-990x465.jpg 990w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The link to chinanews.com leads to the website&#8217;s homepage and not a report. In the past as well, Alt News has <a href=\"https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/fake-pre-poll-survey-by-bbc-predicts-thumping-win-for-bjp-in-lok-sabha-2019\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">debunked elaborate forwarded messages<\/a> that carry a link to the homepage of news websites to give the message an illusion of credibility.<\/p>\n<p>A search on the Twitter page and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/search?q=30+soldiers+site:globaltimes.cn&amp;rlz=1C1CHBF_enIN840IN840&amp;source=lnms&amp;tbm=nws&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=2ahUKEwit99PBkInqAhXOZCsKHVgHDwgQ_AUoBHoECAsQBg&amp;biw=1600&amp;bih=662\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">website<\/a> of Global Times reveals that the organisation has not published any number on Chinese casualties. The last two tweets (<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/globaltimesnews\/status\/1273263537746477056\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">1<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/globaltimesnews\/status\/1273213210699522049\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">2<\/a>) about the military dispute on Global Times talk about the telephonic conversation between Indian foreign minister and his Chinese counterpart. In fact, the names of the &#8220;30 dead Chinese soldiers&#8221; were also not found on the website.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-69215 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/WhatsApp-Image-2020-06-17-at-10.33.38-PM.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1060\" height=\"468\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/WhatsApp-Image-2020-06-17-at-10.33.38-PM.jpeg 1060w, https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/WhatsApp-Image-2020-06-17-at-10.33.38-PM-300x132.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/WhatsApp-Image-2020-06-17-at-10.33.38-PM-1024x452.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/WhatsApp-Image-2020-06-17-at-10.33.38-PM-768x339.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.altnews.in\/english-clone-2026\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2020\/06\/WhatsApp-Image-2020-06-17-at-10.33.38-PM-990x437.jpeg 990w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1060px) 100vw, 1060px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>As of this writing, Beijing has not released the number of casualties, dead or injured. This was tweeted by the editor-in-chief of Global Times Hu Xijin on June 16.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Chinese side didn\u2019t release number of PLA casualties in clash with Indian soldiers. My understanding is the Chinese side doesn\u2019t want people of the two countries to compare the casualties number so to avoid stoking public mood. This is goodwill from Beijing.<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Hu Xijin \u80e1\u9521\u8fdb (@HuXijin_GT) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/HuXijin_GT\/status\/1272901941140561924?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">June 16, 2020<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The only numbers floating right now are &#8220;43 casualties&#8221; <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ANI\/status\/1272927922177765376\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">reported by ANI based on &#8220;sources&#8221;<\/a> and &#8220;35 casualties&#8221; quoted by &#8220;US intelligence sources&#8221; according to a website called <a href=\"https:\/\/www.usnews.com\/news\/world-report\/articles\/2020-06-16\/dozens-killed-as-india-china-face-off-in-first-deadly-clash-in-decades\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">usnews.com<\/a>. However, neither has any prominent defence reporter confirmed these figures nor have the governments of both countries released an official number on Chinese casualties.<\/p>\n<p><em>[Update: Former Indian army officer GD Bakshi&#8217;s tweet was added to the report on June 18, 2020.]<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A military stand-off between Indian and Chinese troops along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) escalated on the night of June 15 leading to the death of at least 20 soldiers of the Indian army. While both sides have blamed the other for provocation, speculations on the number of Chinese casualties are on a rise. 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